Sunday, December 10, 2017

Toronto Box Day 10 - Lotta Leafs

No mix of hockey and baseball cards today - 40 cards, 40 Leafs. Works for me in general, because if I had my choice, I'd go for Leafs right now because between the two, I have many less Leafs than Jays. This is reflective in the "new to me" today as there are 15 out of the 40.



A bit of a cheat because a few of the 1990-91 Pro Set, and 1991-92 Score cards are duplicates for which I needed a second copy because of the near complete sets I have for these. Still counts though!

I am torn on the 1994-95 Score cards. I am thrilled to get them because they are new to me...but man, the design is so mid-90s. Also, amazed to see that the stretching foot on the boards pose (here by Rob Pearson) was done in at least a couple cards as we have seen one in 2007-08 Upper Deck (Adam Foote I believe).

Still, plenty of duplicates which are heavy on the Parkhurst....




Blue Jays Leafs Other
New Base 42 56 22
New Other 13 6
Dupes Base 133 121
Dupes Other 5 2
Total 193 185 22 400

Saturday, December 9, 2017

Toronto Box Day 9 - Not sure about 400...

So one non-Toronto card today...

I think Dave Winfield is generally not remembered as a Blue Jay - though he did win a World Series with the team, he was only in Toronto for the one season of 1992. He spent many years in San Diego and as a Yank before hand, and even spent time in California, Minnesota, and Cleveland. A 12 time all star, happy that Toronto gave him the one World Series ring he had over his Hall of Fame career.

There were some new Jays in this bunch though...

If there is one early 90s set I don't have all the Jays for and really want to set, it is '91 Studio. Love these poses because at least they are in a posed setting. If it is a field shot, it should be game action, not the spring training pose on the field, or pre-game pose.

The Tony '88 card is the Leaf version (I do already have the DOnruss version). Also - yay for more 1994 Donurss!




Back when Triple Play was a decent set for kids to collect. A shame they brought it back and brutalized it with the faux cards of 2012 and 2013. Of course it helped being licensed back in the early 90s, and a decent design, even if it tries to incorporate 1990 Donruss red and 1991 Fleer yellow.

Blue Jays Leafs Other
New Base 42 41 22
New Other 13 6
Dupes Base 133 96
Dupes Other 5 2
Total 193 145 22 360


Friday, December 8, 2017

Toronto Box Day 8 - What does it look like?



I didn't have a couple of these in my want list because they were not listed as Leaf cards. Both the '96 Score cards for Gartner and Gill were listed under the team name shown on the front. I want them in my collection because they are still shown in their Leaf uniform. So I can understand why in the checklist they are not listed as Leafs, but I am glad to get them here otherwise I may not have ever realized I wanted them.

The other sleeper "hit" from this group is the Kenny Jonsson Upper Deck SP insert card.

Still plenty of keeper dupes too...

Not sure if Gruber is looking for a "junk shot" on this "junk wax" card, or if he is mid-limbo contest fall.


A couple more examples of cards that would be tricky to collect as a Leaf collector as two of the 1991-92 Pro Set cards are Flames cards as shown.


If I ever do a "caption this" card post, I'd have to pick that Mike Krushelnyski as the first one - just such a horribly timed pic.

Almost 100 new to me Jay cards at this point from the box!

Blue Jays Leafs Other
New Base 34 41 21
New Other 13 6
Dupes Base 102 96
Dupes Other 5 2
Total 154 145 21 320

Thursday, December 7, 2017

Toronto Box Day 7 - Talkin' Baseball

All baseball today. Not as many keepers as in prior days though...

Let's take a look at Todd Stevens - someone I frankly don't remember ever hearing about. Truth be told, looking at his career, I can understand why. He was originally drafted by the St. Louis Cardinals in the 1989 amateur draft, but to his credit decided that going to college was important. He was then drafted in the first round of the 1992 amateur draft as shown here. He never did put on a Jays uni for Toronto, but did make it to the majors getting into 30 games with Detroit, then a single game the next year with the Padres. Not the greatest of playing careers in the majors.

He ended up sticking around the minors until 1998 at which point he stopped playing at the age of 26. He turned to coaching and accomplished the task of Pacific League Champs as manager of the Sacremento RiverCats.

As for the rest...

Some standard late 80s cards...


I wonder how many multiple bat cards there are to be had. That would make an interesting collection, and Fred McGriff looks like he approves.


I liked the look of Derek Bell, just wish he turned out a bit better for the Jays - never really did it for me.


Blue Jays Leafs Other
New Base 34 32 21
New Other 13 5
Dupes Base 94 74
Dupes Other 5 2
Total 146 113 21 280






Wednesday, December 6, 2017

Toronto Box Day 6 - Hockey heavy

Today, well, like it says, heavy on hockey!

Another day of more than 10 new to the collection cards (all Leafs here). Goes to show that my collection is still quite young and missing a lot of simple holes from mass produced sets, but what can I say - it is a hobby, doesn't take up my every waking moment, and I collect as cheaply as possibly (generally speaking). Besides, as long as I have maximum fun, don't really care about getting every Leaf card out there - that goal would be insane.



My favourite of these would be the 1995-96 Select Andreychuk, with the cover still on (as it should be). As for the '91 Score, again some different sets here given the language on the back but most of these are bilingual which I didn't have before.


One for trade - even if it is Wendel, the Islander uni just doesn't cut it for my collection.

The dupes today...


A little excessive in the Upper Deck duplicates department today, and only one Jay card today.

Blue Jays Leafs Other
New Base 27 32 21
New Other 13 5
Dupes Base 61 74
Dupes Other 5 2
Total 106 113 21 240


Tuesday, December 5, 2017

Toronto Box Day 5 - For whom the Bell tolls and quite the dilemma

So I received a message not too long ago from a TCDB member - dilemma19 - who is a fellow Canadian. He was gracious enough to send along a holiday package unexpectedly. All in the holiday spirit I figure okay, we shall see what is sent and figure out something to send back. Well, I think it will take me a bit of thinking to figure out what I can possibly send back (I took a quick look at his collection on TCDB and with many vintage cards - 50s, 40s, 30s and earlier - I have no idea what I am going to find to send back). I opened the box to find about 15 team bag little packages of cards. At a glance, look to be a number of set needs and of course Blue Jays. Simply wonderful and a huge thank you right off the bat for the box.

Here is where I cheat a little though. Work is insane the next week or two before I am off on holidays, and I don't want to rush through the package because it deserves a good focus. So what I will (selfishly) do is take a skim of them over the holidays - I will probably post about it over the holidays, since they were given for such, but it will also give me a chance to take a good look at what I can possibly send back as a thank you.

I really would like to get to them sooner, but this year is the busies November and December I've had at work. I think we are a bit understaffed, coupled with consistently seeing 7-10% growth year over year, just means busy!

So first, I have added dilemma19 to the friends page because, regardless of what we find, this package calls for such treatment!

Definitely will be seeing this package unwrapped a bit later this month!

Now onto the box...I think it is easily understandable of what kind of "non-Toronto" cards will come out of the box. A perfect example are these are just after their time with the Jays cards....wait....

dang it.....

I scanned a couple including a George Bell which somehow I have deleted and with the card away, I am not going to find quickly...lol...so let's go with this...

* Imaging George Bell in a White Sox uniform *

George Bell played for Toronto from 1981 through 1990 before ending with three seasons in Chicago (first the Cubs and two seasons with the White Sox). A staple of the Toronto outfield through the 80s, a three time silver slugger with an AL MVP award for 1987 when he had 134 RBIs to go with 47 home runs and a .308 average. Once he left Toronto, he stayed an outfield the one year with the Cubs before being DH the last couple years for the White Sox.

Glad he was able to make it to 1,000 RBIs (finishing with 1,002) though never going to be on the verge of the Hall of Fame (1.2% in 1999 and then dropped), he was a Jay easily put onto the level of excellence.

Fun fact - first Blue Jay to end a game with a grand slam on September 4, 1988.

Now on to some scans I didn't accidentally delete...



1988 Fleer Update Jays which I believe again are the Glossy version. The quirky card today is the Marty Janzen which has the name swish raised which is an interesting way to do it, but it does stand out.

As for the rest of the duplicates...


As is blatantly obvious, I hit a big chunk of 1991 O Pee Chee Premier baseball here.

Blue Jays Leafs Other
New Base 26 20 20
New Other 13 5
Dupes Base 61 48
Dupes Other 5 2
Total 105 75 20 200

Monday, December 4, 2017

Toronto Box Day 4 - It's a blur

Printing errors happen, and some people collect them, some can't stand them. I don't yet go out of my way to collect them, but if I do get them, I will keep them with the error card collection. A couple of these came up today.


Luis is a standard UER - the other two are printing errors in my view. This is about the smallest that one has to be for me to count it, but both these Bowman cards obviously were misaligned when printing different colours on.I find it most obvious with the name and the yellow colouring at the bottom.

Compare it to the Bowman in the duplicate cards here:

Much sharper on the border, so easy enough to tell the difference.

Since we are looking at the dupes...the rest of those are;

Given the box of 1991 O Pee Chee Premier I busted a few months ago, no need for any of them in the binder collections, all to the dupes boxes they go.


Nice getting some mid-90s Parkhurst cards, even if I have these. There are others in the set I need, so may benefit in getting some more that I don't have.

Not sure how we ended up at the cards that are new to me last, but here they are:

The Score hockey are the English (however it worked out, I am close to completing the bilingual set, but at about 20% for the English version.

Also, a shame I didn't have more Leaf cards, especially the Canadian Greats George Bell - almost put this on part with a Diamond Kings card. Almost.

So far, so good!
Blue Jays Leafs Other
New Base 22 15 13
New Other 11 5
Dupes Base 43 45
Dupes Other 4 2
Total 80 67 13 160

Sunday, December 3, 2017

Toronto Box Day 3 - A real Score

With the cards that are new to my collection coming from this box, I am noticing a really good theme.


A lot of them are Canadian brand, meaning Leaf and O Pee Chee. This is excellent because most of the trade partners I have online are not Canadian. There are a few Canadian trading partners, but with the majority being American, O Pee Chee and Leaf cards are not as easily found with them than say Donruss, Upper Deck or Topps. I know a lot of this will also be production run, but being in Canada and collecting when these brands were first released, was an easier way to get a bunch of these cards.

Heck, back then when I was collecting, I don't think I knew enough to realize they were two different sets - especially ones like 1991 Topps where the print line and lighter back of the baseball cards was the real clue to the difference. Not something 11 year old me thought as anything more than printing differences of the same set.

The odd "newer" cards like mid-90s Pinnacle is just icing on the cake!

As is any duplicate Jays card I need to be able to put one in the error binder....


Does it make getting duplicates a problem?

Not when they are classic Jays like these...


Not when they include 80s Leaf cards which are in pack fresh condition...or Bowman Hat Trick cards (which I think these are the Tiffany version of because of how glossy they are - as I assume the regular version is not the same gloss...must be slightly different...


and not when you get a real Score of cards like this. Another small difference I didn't notice as a child....the way to tell the Score sets apart here is the colour of the Score word in the top right corner. Red is the bilingual version.


Totals after day 3
Blue Jays Leafs Other
New Base 16 12 13
New Other 8 5
Dupes Base 28 32
Dupes Other 4 2
Total 56 51 13 120

Honestly, with almost 50 new to me cards already, which would work out to 10 cents a card - not surprising that this buy is already a winner.

Saturday, December 2, 2017

Toronto Box Day 2 - Some Basketball?!?!

Okay, so I wasn't expecting to see any basketball cards, but these are Toronto cards at least, so there is that.

As you can see, a few dupes in the bunch, but I haven't seen any 1995-96 Fleer basketball until this. I am not sure what the other team cards are like, but I did like the purple in all it's purply glory, but even these tend to be a bit too much. For what little bit I followed basketball, this was about the time frame for it, so I do prefer the uniforms and even having the purple play a good part in the logo - the cards just take it too far.

As for the new cards today:


The Jim Gott is in rough condition. Glad to see it, and the other 80s Leaf cards because I am missing so much from these and frankly, wasn't sure I would see anything going back pre-85 in the box, so big thumbs up there anyway for Gott.

The Collector's Choice Gilmour would make a good 8 by 10, signed....just saying...

I am also sorely lacking on the Emerald Ice and Topps Gold parallels, so again, great seeing a couple here, and here is to hoping for more.

For the doubles and then some...


Again, can't knock the variety yet. I figured two days in, I would still just be inundated with '91 Fleer, '90 Donruss, '90 Upper Deck, '91 everything, but happily not really the case....yet....

Really like the 1992 McDonald Blue Jays Gold cards, and I do have the set of 6 which is a nice little insert set to a nice 26 card McDonald set - sets like those are ones I really enjoy.

So two days in and here is where we stand (I doubt the percentage of new to me cards will stay this high much longer....though I hope it does!):
Blue Jays Leafs Other
New Base 8 9 13
New Other 7 3
Dupes Base 20 16
Dupes Other 4
Total 39 28 13 80

Friday, December 1, 2017

Toronto Box Day 1 - The Start

It is December which means - especially for anyone with young kids - the focus becomes the holidays. So with Christmas coming, I figured now would be a good time to start going through the box of Toronto cards I picked up a couple months ago. Based on a quick look at the box, I am going to pull out about 40 cards a day to go through for the month which should more or less cover it (we will have to see how right or wrong I am on that). I am sure I will add in other things here and there through the month, similar to the Santa Lot (which I will pick up again in January).

My expectation for this box? I don't really have much of any. I guess if I can end up with a few new Jay or Leaf inserts, parallel or food/oddball cards, that would be worth while, but really any new to me cards would be great. I figure, as I am apt to do, I will keep a running total for the month and see exactly where we end up with the box.

As there will likely be many duplicates, I'll find a way to make such interesting still (I hope), but we will see as we go!

First up cards that were new for me...


Lots to talk about right off the bat. First, happy to see a few insert or similar cards like the Pinnacle Team 2000 card, The Fanfest Score Mark Whiten, and if you can't tell, the 1988 Fleer Update cards here are the glossy parallels.

As much as I should have everything O Pee Chee being Canadian, it just isn't the case, so nice to add the Cecil in O Pee Chee form for 1989 (and the Upper Deck one too).

Another nice add which I wasn't expecting...

A nice add to the unopened collection which is easy too since I have one of these cards already, and since it is just the one card in a package.


Even able to add a few dupes which are of error cards, so these can be added to the error binder instead of the Jays one.


Guess there may be a few minor league cards in here as well, so some trade fodder. I know I had one of these before and traded it away, but it is just enough to keep up with the major league team, let alone worry about collecting the minor leaguers too - just too much.

As for the dupes that I am keeping...

As there will dupes, I will double or triple them up as I did with Pat and Cecil here.


Again, happy to see the Dempster cards even though I have a complete set, and another Fanfest Sprague.



What I will also probably do in some of these posts will be highlight someone here and there just to shine a spotlight on some of the men who wore blue.

So here is my little summary for today, and for the rest of the month:
Blue Jays Leafs Other
New Base 4 2 1
New Other 7 1
Dupes Base 17 5
Dupes Other 3
Total 31 8 1 = 40